Bored and Curious Podcast

Chapel Hart | Dream Collab with Dolly Parton | "Jolene" & "You Can Have Him, Jolene"

May 03, 2021 Mary Katz / Chapel Hart Season 1 Episode 4
Bored and Curious Podcast
Chapel Hart | Dream Collab with Dolly Parton | "Jolene" & "You Can Have Him, Jolene"
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DEFINITELY listen to their answers to the personal questions in the second half of this interview! You can also watch the video of the interview here: https://youtu.be/s6PmIhtGgOw

Today’s guests are the talented and hilarious singing trio Danica Hart, Devynn Hart, and Trea Swindle, collectively known as Chapel Hart. They are members of CMT's Next Women of Country for 2021! Their song "You Can Have Him, Jolene" is a modern answer to the Dolly Parton classic "Jolene." Get ready to laugh and be inspired by this band who harmonizes like angels, but may not always act like them (Trea...). We chat about their upbringing as part of a huge family (108 first cousins!) in Poplarville, Mississippi, their decision to pursue their dream of writing and performing country songs, the stories behind a few of their songs, who they'd love to work with, and they answer some fun personal questions! 

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Danica (Chapel Hart):

Dolly is definitely one. We have to do it. She's gonna listen at this-

Mary Katz (Host):

Can you imagine a mashup of it; of her doing Jolene and y'all doing your part and that kind of back and forth? That would be hilarious.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Amazing! Yes. Welcome to this episode of bored and curious. I'm your host, Mary Katz. And today y'all are in for a treat today's guests are the talented and hilarious singing trio chapel heart, who are members of CMTS next women of country for 2021. Y'all get ready for your cheeks to be hurting from laughing so hard cause these gals are a trip. Alrighty. Let's get started. We can go ahead and get started. You guys can go ahead and tell me about where you grew up. Take it, take it all the way back to a little baby Chapel Hart. What did you guys want to be when you were little? Yes, the little ones. And how did you get into music?

Trea (Chapel Hart):

Going back to the itty bitty Chapel Harts is kind of a great place to start since w- I don't know if you know, we were three of 108 first cousins. And we all started singing in church together, and we used to have, we used to have a children's choir with about, you know, just a couple of the cousins, about 50 or so kids. And and you know, that's kinda like where we all got started in a little town called Harts Chapel. I feel like always wanted to be a singer, but also being a small town, like you're always told "That's not a real job. That's cute, but what do you really want to be?" And so of course, you know, life took us down all kinds of different roads, but look where we wound up.

Mary Katz (Host):

Yeah, absolutely. Now are you guys are from, what's the little, it's a little town in Mississippi?

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Poplarville.

Mary Katz (Host):

Oh, I saw something. Okay. So I saw your videos and I hope I'm going to say this right. Pass Christian?

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Pass Chri-sti-ANN.

Mary Katz (Host):

I knew I was going to say that wrong. Yeah. See, I went to church camp there. I went to church camp there when I was, yeah. When I was like 18. And I remember my youth pastor would, he kept calling it Pass Chri-sti-ANN. And I'm like, "You realize we're Christians, right? Like it's- we know the word." But-

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Right, right. Our manager's from New Orleans and he was like, "So we'll be in Pass Christian today. I was like, it's definitely Pass Christian. It doesn't, you don't feel it until you're in Mississippi and people say Pass Christian. I was telling our manager, I was like,"You of all people should understand wording because New Orleans street names, I can tell you are the worst. Not burgundy, but Bur-GUN-dee. And words like Tchoupitoulas(CHOP-i-TOO-ls). Who does that?

Mary Katz (Host):

So when did you guys realize that you actually wanted to write songs like your own songs and then actually put them out there?

Danica (Chapel Hart):

I always wanted to be a songwriter, but when I was younger, I wrote my first song probably at about seven or eight. And it was just so many subjects in one. It was like about school, church, a dragon, a truck and a princess. And it was all in one song. And I didn't know that you could write several songs. I thought you just had to have that one good one. And so I just, I sang it for my mom and she was like, and so I was like, okay, so. I just figured I didn't need to be a singer songwriter. But probably Trea and I started in about probably 2014 busking, and every prob- for about a year or so everybody kept saying,"Y'all got to write your own music." I wasn't sure what you write about, you know. One guy just said, "Hey, write about what you know. That's always the best thing." And so I said, "Well, I always knew I was going to be famous because I was a very dramatic child. I knew I was a little different." And I said, "I knew the country like the back of my hand ." And so, so the first song that I ever wrote was "Made for Me" on our Out the Mud album; that's a mouthful. Once that door was open, we just kept writing. And Trea would write and I would write and we'd all write together. And so we just, we started kind of just fiddling around and see what feels good, what sounds good. What says what we want to say. And then the monsters were born, the songwriting monsters.

Mary Katz (Host):

What do you think kind of gave you guys that final push to really, you know, give it a go, especially whenever you have other people saying that, "Well, you know, what are the odds that you're going to make it out there?" What are the, you know, what was that final push that made you go,"No, we're doing this and y'all just gonna have to accept it."?

Danica (Chapel Hart):

I always tell people if we had any better sense, we would have went to Nashville to go do country music, but don't know how that didn't hit us. We ended up in new Orleans. And so everybody would always be like,"There's no country music in New Orleans. There's no country music." So we just kind of did party music, cover music, you know, just kind of all the stuff we listened to on the radio, fun stuff. And we did that for a little while, but it just wasn't fulfilling. And we finally sat down and said, look, "We got to take this chance. We got to at least take a chance on ourselves and take a chance on what we're writing and what we feel. And if it doesn't work, we are a hell of a cover band. And I know we can do all right. And we can book weddings and parties and all of that." And I was like, we'll still have a great future in music. But, you know, I was like, I just don't want to get to a place where I say,"Well, if we only would have tried." And so we just sat down and wrote down, you know, put ourselves on paper and all the things that we've been through on paper. And said, look, we'll give this to the world. And if they don't like it, that's okay. But it turned out completely just the opposite. We had so many people say we hear all the time like, "I don't listen to country music, but I love you guys. And I love your songs and I love your messages. And this song did this and this song did that." And it's just mind blowing.

Mary Katz (Host):

So would you say that so far, it's kind of surpassed your expectation or did you even have any expectations going in?

Trea (Chapel Hart):

I would say kind of both sides of that. Yes and no, because from the top, we decided to do this always at the world domination, that's going to be the goal. So all of these other little bitty steps in between, it's okay. That means we're on track, but at the same time, each of these quote unquote little steps in between they're freaking monumentous when you think about it. Because I never would have thought growing up as a kid who watched CMT that I'd be on CMT eventually, but, you know, so it's still, it's like very surprising and mind boggling that's happening, but it was also part of the plan.

Mary Katz (Host):

And next it's a tour bus.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Yes, it's my, it's on my vision board. Cause Lordy we grew. Then we outgrew this van so fast. Our last tour that we did for the end of the year, we had everybody in the van and it was just, we didn't pull a trailer. So we had all equipment and all people in the van. And so it was quite interesting. So it made me realize quick, it's time for tour bus, so-

Mary Katz (Host):

Yeah. Yeah, as I'm sure you love each other, like the family that you are, but enough snuggling is enough snuggling, you know?

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Ain't that the truth?

Mary Katz (Host):

Yeah. Gosh, on that note, you said you have 106 cousins? You're-

Trea (Chapel Hart):

There's 108 of us. Our grandmother has 17 kids and 108 grandkids.

Mary Katz (Host):

See now I can, 100% relate to that because my mom is one of 10 kids and my dad was one of four- yeah. My dad was one of 14. So-

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Come on!

Mary Katz (Host):

Y'all, I'm one of like at last count, like 136 cousins. And I know that's not even the real number anymore.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Right. And it's like insane holidays insane every- it's always too many people when we get together. Yeah. Family reunions are like full blown events that should be checked off by the city.

Mary Katz (Host):

Yeah. You got the Fire Marshall coming out."Nope! Too many people. You were at capacity 50 people ago."

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Right.

Mary Katz (Host):

So tell me about when you guys got that message that you were the the part of the Next Women in Country for CMT.

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

So initially our managers called us and they told us. And I think at the beginning we didn't really believe them. We thought like they were just playing like a terrible joke on us and that they were just like messing around. Cause they joke with us all the time, but they were like, "No, like we're serious." And I think we all just kinda froze up for a second and then screamed, but it was definitely a frozen shock. Couldn't believe it, shook us up moment.

Trea (Chapel Hart):

Followed by a, "You might get kicked out of the hotel for being so loud." moment.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Yeah, it was a scream that was definitely put you out of the hotel worthy. It felt like one of those moments that like, wow, all the hard work got you here. And it's just, it was a super honor because that program is what's pushing out women in music right now, because otherwise we'd be drowning. And we were just so shocked and honored to be a part of it. And there's such a, it's such an amazing class this year and CMT's doing some amazing things.

Mary Katz (Host):

And so now your video is on CMT. What?!

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Yes! It was so funny. We were we were we were supposed to have a Zoom call to meet Leslie and so right before the Zoom call, I was like, "All right, ladies, let's just stay calm. It's just a conversation with Leslie Fram. And it's just us and her." And as soon as, like I said that as everybody started coming in, it was like, *blink blink blink*. I was like, "Huh?!" And she was like, "I told them I was, had a meeting with Chapel Hart, and everybody wanted to come and meet y'all!" And so it was everybody. And they wanted us to play a couple songs. And we played, "You Can Have Him, Jolene" and afterwards it was so quiet. And everybody's everybody was like, and I was like, "Uh, we have another one. If you want to hear another one." And Leslie just said, "In 50 years of country music, no one has ever said that." And we were like, "Whoa!"

Mary Katz (Host):

The title alone is just hilarious. And then you listen to the lyrics. And then you watch the music video and y'all are snatching wigs and just jumping on people and it is a blast! So tell me what your favorite part of filming that video is.

Trea (Chapel Hart):

My favorite part was definitely all the interacting we got to do with the with the police officers from pra-, from Pass Christian. It ain't often that you pretty much get handed the keys to the city and they say, "Okay, what do you guys want to do?" And you know, from running amok in the jail, to tussling with them in the bars. Probably my favorite part. And the fact that they couldn't keep a straight face.

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

I think my favorite part is definitely the fight scene. I didn't know how it would turn out like after the fact, like on camera. I was like, would it look real? Once we saw the video, we were like all super pleased with how it came out and it, we all thought it looked really real. So we were just super excited about that, that scene in particular.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

My two major favorite parts is one, is the fact that we were like, if there's a fight scene, shouldn't we call our friend Mickie James and see if she can come. And it was like a day before. And I was like, "Mickie, I know you are probably the busiest person in the whole world." I was like, "But we've got a, we're shooting a music video. Today's day one. Tomorrow we're doing this fight. It's a big bar fight scene." I was like, "And we would love to have you." And she was like, "Oh, absolutely! I would love to!" She, "Hold on, let me check a few things." And when I tell you she was the best and she came, she flew in. So having her there there was so great and she definitely helped us so much and gave us tips and pointers. But um. So Mickie James was definitely by far one of my favorite parts. And then my second favorite part with Eric, the lead guy, is a good friend of mine. And we were doing the, hit him over the head with the bottle scene. And he was like, "If you just hit me on the top of the head, I don't think it'll hurt as bad.". And so I have a huge problem that like when we're recording, I can't stop smiling. And so the director was like,"Danica, there's one bottle left. Whatever you do, I need you to make this so serious." He, do not smile. Don't" He was like, "Focus." So as I'm focusing on being so serious and like yell, "Action!" and we do the shot. And I just crack him right at the top of the head. So now he has the tiniest little scratch and he was like, "Noooo..." He was going around telling everybody,"I got this scratch on my head. Maybe I need an ice pack." I was like, "You are an old puddin', puddin cup. That scratch is not that big." People say things like they're like, "Oh my God! The video is so hilarious!". I was like, "We've watched it a thousand times. And we still laugh every time we find something new every time." And we're like, "Oh my God!" So-

Trea (Chapel Hart):

It was funny because our manager had actually gotten a call from Billy Gibbons. Cause he saw the video and he thought that it was kind of like a TMZ leaked video of an actual bar fight. And he called the manager and he was like, "I think they're such sweet girls. And I don't know if we want this gettin' leaked out to the public that they got arrested."

Danica (Chapel Hart):

"Like I love 'em so much. I don't know if it's a good move." He was like, "Everything was staged." But it was but I said, "Well, that at least we know the acting was good."

Mary Katz (Host):

So you're working with people in Nashville. You're living your dream. You're getting there, but tell me who have you not worked with yet that you absolutely want to. It is your absolute dream to work with- it doesn't have to be just one. Just fill in the blank.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

We got a chance to meet, Zoom meet Gretchen Wilson. And you know, she w- we, we were talking about her in an article and talking about how much she shaped us as women in be- to be able to come to country music and just authentically be ourselves. And we felt like she did that at the beginning of her career. And it was definitely an inspiration to us. And she said she saw that and she wanted to reach out and personally tell us, thank you and write with us. And you know, and so we were just like, "Oh my God! Can you believe it?" Dolly is definitely on. Yeah,

Mary Katz (Host):

It's gonna happen!

Danica (Chapel Hart):

We have to do- Put it out there. Put it out there. There you go. She's gonna watch it. She's gonna listen at this and be like, "I gotta go. I gotta help my girl." But like what an amazing recreation that would be to have her sing some of the song with us. And, you know, even if we did a live performance or something. That'd be incredible.

Mary Katz (Host):

Can you imagine like a mashup of it? Like her doing Jolene and y'all doing your part and that kind of back and forth. That would be hilarious.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Amazing. Yes.

Trea (Chapel Hart):

I think we have to do one with Reba. Reba and Shania and then I'll be good.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Right.. It's so- like there's so many. And people are like, whenever when people are like, "Who are your- who's your favorite artist? And who is your number one inspiration?" We're like, "We have like 25 as number one." So we are always just so grateful for- it could be a man playing fiddle on the side of the road and we're like, "You want to work with us?" So we're grateful either way.

Mary Katz (Host):

Ladies, let's move on to the story behind the song. This is one of my favorite parts. Okay. I want to hear the story behind"You Can Have Him, Jolene."

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

Looking on YouTube- we did a cover of Dolly Parton's "9 to 5." For that video, I had on a shirt that said "You can have him." Signed "Jolene." And so from there, it just kind of sparked the idea. You know, who does she think she is? Why not- why don't we write a song rather than "You Can Have Him. Signed, Jolene" You like, "You Can Just Have Him, Jolene." Like he's too much. He's not worth the drama. So it was like, just keep him he's he can be your problem and not mine. So it basically was inspired from the t-shirt and we went from there.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Right. Yeah. That, that's exactly it. We were just, "Who does this heifer think she is?". How are you gonna give somebody something that you stole? And so when we sat down to write it out, we just had so many hilarious scenarios. And, you know, but as much energy as in the video is as much energy in the song and the song writing process. And I think that was one of the most exciting things for us, because it all kind of correlated like it all, it made sense. Cause sometimes somewhere down the line you lose something and you know, it doesn't end as exciting as it started. But this song from thought process to us being in the kitchen, laughing about it, to actually sitting down to write it, everything was so exciting. And and all the way down to the music video.

Mary Katz (Host):

All right. And moving on to "Jesus and Alcohol."

Trea (Chapel Hart):

Okay. So we wrote "Jesus and Alcohol" whenever we were, we were crammed in a tiny hotel room about this big in Nashville right off near Percy Priest. And, you know, usually we, whenever we travel, we try to get like somewhere that can at least accommodate us four, but this is one of those rare times we were like kind of crammed in. The weather was bad. So we were like just all holed up in one room. And and Danica was in the bathroom, playing the guitar. Don't ask why she was in the bathroom, playing the guitar. But and she was like strumming through "Amazing Grace". And we had asked our lovely manager, Derek, if you would go on a beer run. So we could get some writing materials. And and, Devynn had this like bright idea. She was like, "Let's make a song with an alliteration in it." And she goes, "You know, like Bible, bourbon, and breakup." And then there was like a pause and I almost feel like a cartoon character. Cause you could, I feel like you could almost see the light bulb go off above their heads and they're like, "Okay, this is going to be pretty awesome!" And we wrote the whole song in, in about 20 minutes or less, because by the time our manager came back with the alcohol that we sent him for, we had a whole song. And and so we like played through it a couple of times. And then the next day we took it to our booking manager. I'm sorry, our booking agent Jeff Hill. And we played it and then it was kind of quiet and we were thinking, well, I guess it's not as great as we thought it was. And then like he just stopped. He said, "Don't. Touch. It. Don't change it. Don't do anything to it." We were like, Oh, Ooh. And it was pretty good,

Danica (Chapel Hart):

But yeah. And he ended up taking in and he knows Billy Gibbons kind of, we use, they were we had ZZ Top we're on the same, we had the same booking agency. And so he was still I think they ended up switching over, but he was still friends with Billy. And he was like, "Billy never calls me back." He said, "I could literally leave him 300 messages to call me back. He never calls me back." He said, so I was sending him some of these. He said, "I sent him some of y'all's music." And then he said, "Then I sent him 'Jesus and Alcohol.'" And he was like, "Whoa!" He said, "Man, this song is-" And he said he was so blown away by, he texted him back and was like, Whoa, this song just blew him away. And then he said, then he sent him a picture of us. He said, he called me in five seconds. It was like, what is what is the world? What is this? He said, what are you? He was like, "Who are these girls?" He said, you know, "You're pulling my leg right now." He said, "No, it's a new group called Chapel Hart.". And then he was just so blown away. He said, "Whatever I can do to help those girls, please let me know." And we were like, "Well, we got a video. We need to make a music video." And he was like, "Let me know when and where." And he showed up, you know. He gave us his word and he showed up and you know, it just, the rest was there's "Jesus and Alcohol."

Mary Katz (Host):

And there it is. And the next one I've got, "I Will Follow."

Danica (Chapel Hart):

"I Will Follow" was a song that we, it was the first, one of the first outside songs. And we got "Just Say I Love You" and "I Will Follow" that you know, I guess was pitched to us, but we didn't know like how Nashville pitching songs and all that worked. We heard, "I Will Follow" and instantly I said, "This is ours. Like we have to take it." And everybody kind of looked and I'm like, "What are we- I don't know if we have to thumb wrestle for it, or you have to wig snatch, snatch a wig first." But I was like, "We gotta have this." That, we heard "I Will Follow" and it spoke everything that we believed, everything that we were going through, everything about our journey. And w- it was just one of those instant connections. And and then we were on tour and we were like, this is the video. It's what we do. It's traveling. It's on the road. It's, you know, having to have dinner at McDonald's sometimes. It's having a, you know, but it's making friends along the way. And I think that video completely captured the song and it captured who we are. Captured our little family on the road that, you know. It was everything. And that, that just kind of, "I Will Follow" I feel like it just kinda, you know, once we got it, everything made sense and everything kind of fell into place.

Mary Katz (Host):

That's awesome. And my next one is "Country Paradise." That looked like a fun video to shoot.

Trea (Chapel Hart):

It still doesn't even seem like it was one of those days for work. Cause we pretty much just got together and hung out at the creek all day long. And and it's, we actually shot it in one of our favorite places to hang out as a kid. And it's a little creek called Boley Creek. And it's literally one of those, you you're riding down a random back road, and then you see like a line of trucks next to a bridge and you walk under the bridge and there's like a whole neighborhood party going on at the creek. It's just kind of illustrating of all the places that we know there's still nothing like, you know, just going and hanging out at the creek under a bridge with all of your good friends. And, you know, we were able to hang out, play with a bunch of kids there had a little, had a little barbecue and have fun in our country paradise.

Mary Katz (Host):

Gosh. Yeah. I have so many memories of that growing up, like just near a river and we had a pond out by the house. And it was just like, so there's always, there's always a good spot to just jump in some water somewhere cool down. Cause we all know it gets just a little bit too hot in the South. All right, girls, those are all the questions I have regarding the songs and stuff. And my next segment is just for fun. Let's just get to know the gals a little bit. So I don't know how much, I don't know how much free time y'all have these days, but if you do, are you watching anything on the, on, on the little, the TV or the YouTube or the Netflix and whatnot? And if so, what you watching?

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

I'm watching Good Girls on Netflix,

Mary Katz (Host):

All right.

Trea (Chapel Hart):

I, I started it, but I got one episode in, but I've been stuck on audio books. And then I just recently discovered this book called The Indignities of Being a Woman. And it's freaking hilarious. You should definitely check it out. If you're uh, if you're about the Audible life.

Mary Katz (Host):

Oh, yeah.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

I'm not much, I'm not much of a TV watcher only because I don't know how to do it right. Like I'm a binge watcher, but I got to see it through, from top to finish. And so sometimes I don't sleep for two or three days. And so, I just have been put on punishment from being a Netflix season watcher. But I did start Dr. Foster and I hadn't gotten back into it yet, but it's so good to, well, to me. I think it's so good. CMT to see if we're on it.

Mary Katz (Host):

Oh yes, absolutely. Yeah. That's what I'd be doing too if I had that opportunity. And so what is at least one item on your bucket list?

Danica (Chapel Hart):

I got it go with the Grand Ole Opry. Like the day that we're there and I'm standing in that circle. I am just going to- they may have to just move my lips and just play the track because I'm going to be dead. Okay. But that would be that's my bucket list.

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

I'd like to have a conversation with Gretchen Wilson. When I, when we got to talk to her I didn't even, I didn't even say anything. I just sat there and cried with my mouth open. So, so to actually have a conversation with her, that sounds-

Danica (Chapel Hart):

At the end, she was like pouring, like bawling. And she was like, and well, at the end of the conversation, Gretchen said, "Well, maybe next time I'll get a chance to hear your voice sounds-" So she was like- But so finally at the end of it, she was like bawling. She was like, "Well, at least Gretchen Wilson wants to know what my voice sounds like." So bucket list for sure.

Trea (Chapel Hart):

You have to put it on there. If not, the second meeting is going to be really awkward. Just Chapel Hart being a household name, musically all around the world, period.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Is that your bucket list?

Trea (Chapel Hart):

Yeah. Well, that's the nice way of saying world domination.

Mary Katz (Host):

All right. So let's say, you know, you're playing at the Grand Ole Opry. You're already on CMT. You're doing big venues. Let's just say the the money's coming in. You're living the dream. You get a nice paycheck for royalties or whatever it is. Uh huh. And how would you treat yourself?

Trea (Chapel Hart):

Ooh, I would treat myself to a 1967 step side Chevy that's like seafoam green and white with like little Chrome details. And I'll have the biggest workshop known to man and the little bitty shack to live in.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Which is probably pretty accurate. I don't have too many huge things that I want. Or too many kind of materialistic things that I want, but I've always wanted a G-Wagon, like my entire life. I just think they look so cool. And probably when I get one, I'll be like this, but it's just always what I wanted. So that would probably be like my splurge thing. And I got a couple of people that I want to help out. And I think that, you know, I think I'll be good and everything else just kind of be, you know, the pickup stuff along the way. But G-Wagon and helping folks is my first, my, when I get my first free, I can make it rain somewhere.

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

My first splurge is going to be paying off my car because I am literally so tired of a car note. It is the worst thing I've ever signed up for in my life. I don't wish it on anybody. Anybody listening, don't ever get a car note. Just go in and pay for it. So I'll be taking care of that.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Get you a bike.

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

I'm going to buy a bike after that. I don't know. I don't know yet.

Mary Katz (Host):

Oh, gosh. Yeah, the American dream is debt. Oh gosh.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Come on...

Mary Katz (Host):

Got to get on some Dave Ramsey there. Ooh.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Right.

Mary Katz (Host):

All right. This is probably one of my favorite questions. What's the worst thing you each did as a kid?

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Trea has a thousand. I don't know if she can just pick one.

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

I'll go. One time my cousin and I were like just kind of playing around at the house. And for whatever reason, I thought it'd be a good idea to dial nine one one, and then hang up. Well, the cops ended up showing up. We were hiding in the house and once the cops like got out the car and started walking towards the door, I just got out of the hiding spot, ran outside and I was like, "She made me do it!" Like I blamed everything on her. And I think that's about the worst. I wasn't a bad kid. So that was probably the worst.

Mary Katz (Host):

I did the exact same thing.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Right! That nine- that checking to see if 911 is a real number; if it works. That kills you as a kid. You know, it's does it work? You know, what is classified as an emergency? If I want something to eat and my mom won't go get it, is that an emergency?

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

That's not the worst for me. One time I put citrate in my mom's lemonade.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

It was, what is it? It's like-

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

Just like a laxative.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Liquid laxative. And so, yeah, I think she thought that was going to take her right on out of here. Good thing it didn't.

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

No I didn't want to take her out. I just wanted her to poop a little bit.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Oh, Whoa. Oh! Come on...

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

I bet you'll say "yes" next time, Mom.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Yeah. I don't know I was in like a chef mode or something as a kid. Like we were like teenagers, me and Trea. And I was going to show her how to cook a pork chop and, you know. I was, but next thing you know, the pan catches on fire and I'm like, "Ah!" So I'm like swinging it around in the flames, go up. And I'm like, "Agh!" So then I turn on the water and try to do it and it blazes up in the kitchen and I was like "AGH!" So then I just go outside and wave it around. And I literally prayed one of the hardest prayers of my life."Lord to put this fire out and I promise I'm going to be the best person I can be or whatever it is that you need from me." Because I almost set my grandmother's house on fire, and I knew I could not live with that in my heart of hearts. Like why does your grandmother not have a place to live? Because I set it on fire making pork chop. Not a good story. So definitely by far, one of the worst things. Worst experiences I've ever been through.

Trea (Chapel Hart):

Okay. Well, one thing that I did, I feel like a lot of people feel this way. You might as well make it worth it. My dad Smitty, he will call me on so much BS. I was like, "Ooh, I'm going to get him one day." Cause I think he wouldn't let me like go to my friend's house or something. And he had just been diagnosed as a diabetic and he'd had asthma like his whole life. And so I like lit every scented candle in the house, spraying perfume and air freshener and everything else in hopes of giving him an asthma attack.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Trea's the devil.

Trea (Chapel Hart):

That didn't work because he spent all day outside working on his boat. And so I like, you know, I like switched all the sugar with the salt and that didn't work cause he didn't drink coffee that day. And then, so I made him a candle that had one of those, what is it like the M-88, the little firecrackers, inside of it. And so I pretty much just made a candle around a firecracker and then engraved "I'm sorry" on the candle and gave it to him. And that worked. And I got my ass beat, but it worked.

Mary Katz (Host):

So it just like exploded in the a house?

Trea (Chapel Hart):

Well, it wasn't very big. There was, you know, just like candle wax on the ceiling and stuff, you know?

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Oh my God.

Trea (Chapel Hart):

But other than that, you know, I was an angel.

Mary Katz (Host):

I'm just going to take your word for it.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

She had that hell week, what she meant was hell years.

Mary Katz (Host):

I think that one might fit into my next question, which is what's the most adventurous or riskiest thing you've ever done?

Danica (Chapel Hart):

I'm going to say travel. I'd never been to Europe before, so, and we went by ourselves with the band by ourselves to get us, navigate us through and definitely an adventure. And it scared the crap out of me, but I did it and it was the most amazing thing.

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

The most adventurous thing I have ever done is joining this band because I don't know who I thought I was agreeing willingly to be like, you know, I'm going to spend the rest of my life with Danica and Trea. And then I got here. And they've been driving me crazy ever since.

Trea (Chapel Hart):

And she ain't left yet. Honestly, all of the dangerous things I've done in my life. I think the most adventurous was being on the golf cart while Danica was driving. There were a couple of moments where I'm sure me and all the other ten people who were over capacity on a golf cart felt like fear for their lives at one point. Hitting corners and just NASCAR golf carted. And yeah. And still gives me a little flashback every night.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Right?

Mary Katz (Host):

So Danica, you must be taking driving lessons from my husband then because every day in the car, I'm just like-

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Right. Every day is another adventure.

Mary Katz (Host):

Yes, it is. Oh man. Okay. Y'all moving on to a little segment I call Could Ya Not?.. It's just whether it's professional or personal or traffic-related, I don't care is what it could have something to do with your dog or each other. Doesn't matter, whatever it is that just gets under your skin for each of you, just tell the world, could you not...?

Danica (Chapel Hart):

World, would you not? Could you not hook up your children to those little monkey backpack leashes. We stare at you. Okay. And I know it helps you keep up with your kid, but we stare at you.

Mary Katz (Host):

I will tell you this as a mom, I have been very tempted to do that. I haven't done it, but like my kids are, yeah. My kids are four, three and one and a half. So I. I've considered it. Yeah. Y'all giving me a Katt Williams flashback.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Desperate measures, I know. But we stare at you guys. We do, we secretly judge you. No, but there was this, I will say we saw not too long ago. ago, this is one little boy that was on a leash. And he was like... I was like, now I don't blame her. I think it's maybe situational.

Devynn (Chapel Hart):

I'll just say the South. Could y'all not make crawfish 16 freaking dollars a pound. I'm ready to eat a lot of crawfish, but not have to pay-

Danica (Chapel Hart):

A billion dollars for crawfish.

Trea (Chapel Hart):

Take out a small loan to enjoy eating the crawfish.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Make crawfish $1.99 again.

Trea (Chapel Hart):

Yeah. That's a hat I will wear. Okay. Dear America, especially with visiting the South, could you not forget to show appreciation to somebody who lets you in in traffic? It's a world known like courtesy. If somebody lets you in, you give a little wave or a little nod or a little. You got to show that you're appreciative because if you let them in and they don't say thank you, it just makes you want to cut them off again.

Mary Katz (Host):

It really does. I live in Dallas and it's yeah. Every day. My final segment here is a little thing called Why in the Sam Hill do we say that? The one that I picked is why in the Sam Hill do we say t hat we have beef with someone? W- what's that origin? So I'm going to give you the short version of that because it was really long. And I was like, I'm not going to do that to the wonderful ladies. So why in the Sam Hill do we say that we have beef with someone? So it's meant as a complaint. I'm sure y'all know that. And it came into use in theU.S. in the 1880s. The origin of the term is unknown, but some speculate that it refers to two beefy, meaning mascular- mascular... Oh,, Jesus. and alcohol...-meaning muscular men settling a dispute with violence. Others believe it is tied to the Cockney rhyming slang, "hot beef," which means "stop thief." Sure. How would this have traveled to the United States is unknown. Others believe it may have something to do with the competition between ranchers and farmers during the days of American pioneering. The word "beef" is derived from the old French word- I'm going to butcher this one -"boeuf" (bwef) "boeuf"(bweef) "boeuf" (bwuf)- (Y'all can give that a try if you want to.)-which means the flesh of cows or oxen. So now we know, sort of, why we say that.

Danica (Chapel Hart):

Now we know.

Mary Katz (Host):

Gosh. All right. Is there anything else you ladies want to add before I let you go?

Danica (Chapel Hart):

No, this has been an amazing interview and we've had so much fun!

Mary Katz (Host):

Good! I'm glad you guys had some fun. All right. Well, girls, thank you so much for being on Bored and Curious today. This was awesome. And I wish you guys all the luck that you deserve, and that is a lot! Alrighty, y'all. Thank you so much for checking out this episode of Bored and Curious. I hope you enjoyed it. Be sure to head on over to the description so you can keep track of Chapel Hart and their tour, their music and all that great stuff. And make sure you give us a follow over on social media and be sure to subscribe or follow the podcast. Thanks again, and see you next time!

Intro & childhood
Decision to become singer-songwritiers
108 cousins!
CMT-NOBODY HAS DONE THIS IN 50 YEARS! ("Jolene")
Story behind the song: "You Can Have Him, Jolene"
Story behind the song: "Jesus and Alcohol"
Story behind the song: "I Will Follow"
Story behind the song: "Country Paradise"
Bucket list
Treat yourself! (Devynn's answer!)
Worst thing you did as a kid
Riskiest / most adventurous thing you've done
Could ya not? (i.e. What bothers you?)
Why in the Sam Hill do we say that?